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Interoperability support between Cisco and Microsoft products in unified communications

Cisco and Microsoft are competitors in the unified communications space, with very different visions and product approaches – I don’t think that’s going to come as a surprise to anyone.   Nor should it be a surprise that many customers have Cisco networking and telephony gear along with desktop, messaging and collaboration software from Microsoft and want our products to interoperate together well in the customer’s environment. 

To Microsoft, that means we want to offer customers software that runs great on Cisco networks.  With Office Communications Server’s support for the Cisco ISR platform, great support for DSCP packet marking to deliver QoS, VLAN tagging, and many more technologies, we are delivering a lot of capabilities so customers can get the most out of their Cisco network investments. 

We also look to interoperate broadly using open standards with Cisco products in unified communications.   As part of both companies’ commitments to our customers and shareholders, we’ve recently published a joint statement of interoperability for our products in unified communications, specifically addressing how Microsoft Office Communications Server and Cisco Unified Communications Manager work together across three different deployment scenarios, and what each company supports.  You can download that statement on the Microsoft site and yes the same document from the Cisco site.

The statement was drafted specifically with regard to Cisco of course, but an important point to remember is that Microsoft looks at interoperability across all of the vendors in a particular space – we don’t provide preferential treatment to support Cisco products or scenarios uniquely.  So the support statements we’ve crafted with Cisco, while applying directly to Cisco products, are founded on principles that can be applied to any vendor’s products in a given scenario.

The first scenario is Direct SIP, where Office Communications Server is a peer telephony platform to an IP-PBX and exchanges calls using SIP, without the use of an intermediate gateway.  A number of IP-PBXs have qualified for Direct SIP support with Office Communications Server by engaging through our Unified Communications Open Interoperability Program (UCOIP) to provide joint support.  In addition to that effort, Microsoft also tests IP-PBXs that have not engaged in the program, based on customer demand.  As such, we delineate between products that have been “qualified”, where the IP-PBX vendor engages through the UCOIP and both companies support the integration, and those that have been “tested”, where Microsoft solely does the testing and supports the configuration.  This is why you see some versions of Cisco Unified Communications Manager supported by Microsoft for Direct SIP, but not by Cisco.  Our customers have clearly told us it’s important to provide both programs, as many have older IP-PBXs that vendors may not choose to come through the UCOIP.  Those models Microsoft can test and potentially support (based on the IP-PBXs adherence to standard-based SIP), allowing customers to get more value out of their existing investments.

The second scenario is Remote Call Control (RCC), where the PBX station set (doesn’t have to be IP in this case) is controlled by Office Communicator.  Here, we don’t have a testing or qualification program – there are many PBXs and Gateways that support the ECMA TR/87 standard used by RCC and those products will work with Office Communicator, as we support the TR/87 interface.  Many PBX vendors will have a specific testing matrix for which middleware layer or CTI link is supported with Office Communications Server.  In addition, there are a variety of RCC gateways in the market from companies like CoreBridge, Estos and Genesys that further expand the diversity of PBX models and versions available.  Microsoft has announced the deprecation of the RCC feature for the next release of Office Communications Server, so new deployments of RCC will not be supported with the coming release.   However, customers who have existing deployments of RCC can upgrade to the next release and will continue to be supported through the lifecycle of that release – a good long time.

Finally, several PBX vendors have brought to market plug-ins to Microsoft Office Communicator that allow for Office Communicator to interact directly with a PBX environment. These plug-ins are built on top of the Office Communications Server APIs which provide an extensible platform for the development of communications integrated directly into business process applications, customizing the functionality of Office Communicator or Office Communications Server and much more.   Microsoft welcomes all vendors who build on our platform, whether they are Microsoft ISVs, Partners or traditional competitors in the unified communications space.  My colleague BJ Haberkorn has devoted an entire blog post to this, and specifically discusses the Cisco Unified Communications Integration for Microsoft Office Communicator, or CUCiMOC – don’t hesitate to check that out.

Finally, look forward to the dialogue - I’ll hound the blog for comments, or you can contact me directly at [sip | smtp] : jastark (at) microsoft.com

Jamie Stark

OCS Senior Product Manager

 

Published Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:41 PM by ocsteam
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Comments

 

Hubster3 said:

Although not the main point of this article, I believe the decision by Microsoft to deprecate the Remote Call Control feature is a huge mistake on Microsoft's part.  Users will now have to make an either/or decision regarding OCS Voice or their trusted PBX rather that treating OCS Voice as a complimentary add-on to their PBX.  The add-on approach made it easy for users to deploy where OCS Voice added value or did things that their PBX did not easily do.

Now, users will only choose Microsoft and deploy when three things are accomplished: 1) OCS Voice will have to support ALL of the needed PBX features and functions, 2) it will have to be cost competitive (and simplicity competitive), and 3) a support infrastructure is in place that provides equivalency to existing voice support.  All three of these are not on the immediate horizon.

The result will be a significant slow-down in adoption of OCS Voice.

It is also unfortunate that they are now turning their backs on the partnerships formed with the PBX manufacturers based on the idea of mutual added value, when these relationships could have been a great boon to the early adoption of OCS Voice as a complementary add-on.

I honestly wonder what the Microsoft team is thinking in taking this action, as I see no rationale that would support their decision unless it is simply too much of a technical challenge that they do not want to deal with.

I will be curious to see your response.
December 11, 2009 3:23 PM
 

jastark said:

Thanks for you comments.

I respectfully disagree that the deprecation of RCC creates an either/or decision regarding OCS Voice.  Customers are consuming OCS in a variety of different ways - for some, it's a step towards moving all communication and collaboration functions as workloads in the datacenter.  For others, they mix the two telephony platforms, with some users continuing to use the PBX while others enjoy full OCS voice capability.  For some customers, it means deploying OCS conferencing broadly to their user base, with dial-in from the PBX being the primary use case, and one-click connect from Office Communicator a secondary scenario.  

Remote Call Control though provides but a small subset of the capabilities of OCS.  For some customers, that's sufficient - but for more customers the benefit they get from OCS as an open, software based communications platform - integrating into business processes, letting users communicate from anywhere and built into into the software end-users use today - makes a significant impact to the business.  Check out the case studies - microsoft.com/casestudies

Also, there are lots of materials (presentations from TechNET, OCS 2007 R2 launch, the blogs, etc.) regarding the deployment of OCS voice and conferencing, with the resounding theme being that OCS as a platform is flexible enough for customers to have many different ways to deploy.  These deployment scenarios are extremely standard in the industry - across nearly every PBX vendor you'll find server-side internetworking with (primarily) circuits and (increasingly) Direct SIP.

Regarding partnerships with PBX manufacturers, we're pretty transparent here - with both the UC Open Interoperability Program where a third party qualifies IP-PBXs with OCS, and in the SIP Forum, where we are working - along with the rest of the industry - on the next generation of SIPConnect.   You can see the entire proceedings at http://sipforum.org
December 15, 2009 6:14 PM
 

Angelajoly said:

Interoperability is important feature to select the platform.t is also unfortunate that they are now turning their backs on the partnerships formed with the PBX manufacturers based on the idea of mutual added value, when these relationships could have been a great boon to the early adoption of OCS Voice as a complementary add-on.
January 11, 2010 11:36 PM
 

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February 2, 2010 11:29 AM
 

Mark_Craddock said:

An interesting debate indeed. As a UK based Solution Architect for a global voice vendor, and having a focus on the UC marketplace for the past 6 years, I'm constantly engaged into accounts to discuss this exact topic.

Cutting to the chase, and when taking many aspects into consideration (and there's lots of them), I personally think removal of RCC at this time is premature.  

My account base is across the verticals and range from medium to large enterprise. For certain, businesses that are mandating OCS are having issues when looking for the ideal option of including Voice within the design, and the 'best' option (as opposed to 'ideal') is always RCC.

We are just beginning to see business wishing to make a commitment to large scale RCC deployments (2,000 - 20,000 users), in a variety of sectors, in an effort to maintain both OCS and their established voice estate.

It's seem a pity this previous 'grey' area is will now become 'black and white' and I have to agree with Hubster3 that businesses will now face an either/or situation.  



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In addition, there are a variety of RCC gateways in the market from companies like CoreBridge, Estos and Genesys that further expand the diversity of PBX models and versions available.
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I work for a software company certified by both MS and Cisco and we're investigating businesses' need to develop solutions that utilize both MS and Cisco UC environments. The CUCIMOC is one product that does that but we believe there has to be much more that can be done to utilize what this interoperability support has to offer. I've been searching but so far I could not find any tangible needs. If you know or heard of a solution needed by customers in this area, please let me know.
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